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  1. WORKTERRA
  2. WT-12598

County of San Luis Obispo - Retiree Vision Rate Issue

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    • Type: Support Activity
    • Status: Closed
    • Priority: Medium
    • Resolution: Done
    • Affects Version/s: None
    • Fix Version/s: None
    • Component/s: BenAdmin
    • Labels:
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    • Support Task Type:
      Query Resolution
    • Environment:
      Stage
    • Reported by:
      Client
    • Company:
      County of San Luis Obispo
    • Module:
      BenAdmin - Enrollment
    • Severity:
      Simple

      Description

      Hi,

      Another strange item we keep seeing, for retirees enrolling in vision for EE+1 a cost is not appearing on their confirmation statement once they enroll in the plan. They can see the cost before they hit enroll and then it disappears? See below example for James Currie. Not sure if this is just a confirmation statement issue or a bigger one, so I wanted to pass it along.

      See attachment for screen shot

      I have been able to go into the system, waive the coverage, then re-enroll in the EE + 1 Dependent plan and the rate appears again.

      I am concerned that this is a larger issue that if no rate is being presented after election, that this will pull $0.00 on to the Invoice.

      Thank you,
      Kira Hamilton
      Debbie Kulling

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          Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) created issue -
          Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) made changes -
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          Description Hi,

          Per the client:

          • For flex type of plans cost is getting calculated by below given formula.
          cost per pay check = coverage / number of pay periods.
          Number of pay periods are considered by pay check date for that employee. In our case the number of pay period is 47 because only 47 pay check are remaining form effective date of enrollment.
          • For rest of plan types (Medical, Dental etc.) cost is depend on number of pay cycles not the pay checks.
           (see screen shot on attached email)

          I have been able to go into the system, waive the coverage, then re-enroll in the EE + 1 Dependent plan and the rate appears again.

          I am concerned that this is a larger issue that if no rate is being presented after election, that this will pull $0.00 on to the Invoice.

          Could you please have Development look into this ASAP?


          Thank you,
          Kira Hamilton
          [~dkulling]
          Hi,

          Another strange item we keep seeing, for retirees enrolling in vision for EE+1 a cost is not appearing on their confirmation statement once they enroll in the plan. They can see the cost before they hit enroll and then it disappears? See below example for James Currie. Not sure if this is just a confirmation statement issue or a bigger one, so I wanted to pass it along.

          See attachment for screen shot

          I have been able to go into the system, waive the coverage, then re-enroll in the EE + 1 Dependent plan and the rate appears again.

          I am concerned that this is a larger issue that if no rate is being presented after election, that this will pull $0.00 on to the Invoice.


           
          Thank you,
          Kira Hamilton
          [~dkulling]
          jaideep.vinchurkar Jaideep Vinchurkar (Inactive) made changes -
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          jaideep.vinchurkar Jaideep Vinchurkar (Inactive) added a comment -

          Hi Kira Hamilton,

          If we talk about 'Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent' plan, mapped rate is effective from 01/01/2018. So on confirmation statement in current enrollment section you will not see any cost.However, you will see cost for same plan under future enrollment section effective from 01/01/2018.

          General observation : All rates on county of san Luis Obispo are effective from 01/01/2018. There for all enrollments that are effective in 2017 will not be having costs for 2017.

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          jaideep.vinchurkar Jaideep Vinchurkar (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Kira Hamilton , If we talk about 'Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent' plan, mapped rate is effective from 01/01/2018. So on confirmation statement in current enrollment section you will not see any cost.However, you will see cost for same plan under future enrollment section effective from 01/01/2018. General observation : All rates on county of san Luis Obispo are effective from 01/01/2018. There for all enrollments that are effective in 2017 will not be having costs for 2017.
          jaideep.vinchurkar Jaideep Vinchurkar (Inactive) logged work - 01/Dec/17 10:14 PM
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          jaideep.vinchurkar Jaideep Vinchurkar (Inactive) made changes -
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          jaideep.vinchurkar Jaideep Vinchurkar (Inactive) made changes -
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          Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) added a comment - - edited

          Hi Jaideep Vinchurkar

          Per BCC:

          The issue is occurring in the Future Enrollment Section as well as on the actual Enroll Now page. Using the OE window that is available, the rate would be visible prior to electing the plan, but once the plan is elected, the rate disappears. The rate also then shows as $0.00 in the Future Enrollment section on the Confirmation Statement. I am concerned that this is a larger issue that if no rate is being presented after election, that this will pull $0.00 on to the Invoice.

          Please research,

          Thank you,
          Kira Hamilton
          Debbie Kulling

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          Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) added a comment - - edited Hi Jaideep Vinchurkar Per BCC: The issue is occurring in the Future Enrollment Section as well as on the actual Enroll Now page. Using the OE window that is available, the rate would be visible prior to electing the plan, but once the plan is elected, the rate disappears. The rate also then shows as $0.00 in the Future Enrollment section on the Confirmation Statement. I am concerned that this is a larger issue that if no rate is being presented after election, that this will pull $0.00 on to the Invoice. Please research, Thank you, Kira Hamilton Debbie Kulling
          Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) made changes -
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          jaideep.vinchurkar Jaideep Vinchurkar (Inactive) added a comment -

          Could you please check this?

          Kira Hamilton please assign us the tickets when you have some action item for us, we might miss your tickets as they are still assigned to you.

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          jaideep.vinchurkar Jaideep Vinchurkar (Inactive) added a comment - Could you please check this? Kira Hamilton please assign us the tickets when you have some action item for us, we might miss your tickets as they are still assigned to you.
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          Assignee Kira Hamilton [ kira.hamilton ] Jyoti Mayne [ jyoti.mayne ]
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          Assignee Jyoti Mayne [ jyoti.mayne ] Snehal Shabade [ snehal.shabade ]
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          snehal.shabade Snehal Shabade (Inactive) added a comment -

          Hi Prasad Pise,

          We tried some scenarios to reproduce this issue
          1)Enrolled existing EE in 'Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent' plan through Partner login and OE mode and checked cost on enroll now page and confirmation statement page.But cost displayed properly on both the screen
          2)Added new EE : Enrolled new EE in 'Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent' plan through Partner login and OE mode And checked cost on enroll now page and confirmation statement page .But cost displayed properly on both the screen

          NOTE: Mapped rate on 'Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent' plan is effective from 01/01/2018.

          Could you please help in reproducing this issue?

          Thanks,
          Snehal Shabade

          Cc: Umesh Kadam

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          snehal.shabade Snehal Shabade (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Prasad Pise , We tried some scenarios to reproduce this issue 1)Enrolled existing EE in 'Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent' plan through Partner login and OE mode and checked cost on enroll now page and confirmation statement page.But cost displayed properly on both the screen 2)Added new EE : Enrolled new EE in 'Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent' plan through Partner login and OE mode And checked cost on enroll now page and confirmation statement page .But cost displayed properly on both the screen NOTE: Mapped rate on 'Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent' plan is effective from 01/01/2018. Could you please help in reproducing this issue? Thanks, Snehal Shabade Cc: Umesh Kadam
          snehal.shabade Snehal Shabade (Inactive) made changes -
          Assignee Snehal Shabade [ snehal.shabade ] Prasad Pise [ prasadp ]
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          Assignee Prasad Pise [ prasadp ] Rashmita Dudhe [ rashmita.dudhe ]
          snehal.shabade Snehal Shabade (Inactive) logged work - 18/Dec/17 04:16 PM
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          rashmita.dudhe Rashmita Dudhe (Inactive) added a comment -

          Hi Kira Hamilton,

          CC: Snehal Shabade,Umesh Kadam,Jyoti Mayne,Hrishikesh Deshpande

          We analyze this issue and it is not an issue it is because there was the change in Plan Design customization.

          Employee James Currie done enrollment through import with the same template in all retire plans with EE+SP tier effective date 10/01/2017.

          refer below screenshots:

          Also, In Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent plan but in rate, there is no health tier cost for EE+SP.
          So, It was showing Zero cost and this plan is an ongoing plan that why it was showing zero cost in future enrollment also.
          refer below screenshots

          and at 11/03/2017 there was a change in general plan design Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent plan and this plan is only eligible for EE tier refer below screenshots

          After that change When you went to enroll now screen it was showing zero cost with EE tier and if you click on enroll now button again you will see the correct cost.

          You will not face the same issue again we have tried lots of scenarios with current customization and it is showing the proper cost for future enrollment with EE tier.

          Thanks,
          Rashmita

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          rashmita.dudhe Rashmita Dudhe (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Kira Hamilton , CC: Snehal Shabade , Umesh Kadam , Jyoti Mayne , Hrishikesh Deshpande We analyze this issue and it is not an issue it is because there was the change in Plan Design customization. Employee James Currie done enrollment through import with the same template in all retire plans with EE+SP tier effective date 10/01/2017. refer below screenshots: Also, In Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent plan but in rate, there is no health tier cost for EE+SP. So, It was showing Zero cost and this plan is an ongoing plan that why it was showing zero cost in future enrollment also. refer below screenshots and at 11/03/2017 there was a change in general plan design Retiree VSP Vision - EE + 1 Dependent plan and this plan is only eligible for EE tier refer below screenshots After that change When you went to enroll now screen it was showing zero cost with EE tier and if you click on enroll now button again you will see the correct cost. You will not face the same issue again we have tried lots of scenarios with current customization and it is showing the proper cost for future enrollment with EE tier. Thanks, Rashmita
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          sumeet.kolge Sumeet.Kolge (Inactive) added a comment -

          HI Kira Hamilton,

          Is any further action needed from Dev's end or its fine to close the ticket. Thanks!

          -------------------------------------
          CC: Mandar Kulkarni, Satya

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          sumeet.kolge Sumeet.Kolge (Inactive) added a comment - HI Kira Hamilton , Is any further action needed from Dev's end or its fine to close the ticket. Thanks! ------------------------------------- CC: Mandar Kulkarni , Satya
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            Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive)
            Reporter:
            Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive)
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            Debbie Kulling
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