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  1. WORKTERRA
  2. WT-13063

COB - Amwins MediGap Rate Recalculation Error

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    • Type: Support Activity
    • Status: Resolved
    • Priority: Medium
    • Resolution: Done
    • Affects Version/s: None
    • Fix Version/s: None
    • Component/s: None
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    • Support Task Type:
      Query Resolution
    • Environment:
      Production
    • Reported by:
      Client
    • Company:
      COB
    • Module:
      BenAdmin - Report
    • Severity:
      Simple

      Description

      Hi,

      Per BCC:

      We were recently notified by the group that there are in state and out of state rates for the AmWins MediGap Medical plan. I have gone into the system and made the appropriate changes by adding a second Sub Rate within the AmWins Medigap Rate using state to differentiate between the two rate “plans”.

      I then went into the SA Toolbox to extend and recalculate the rate since the rate needed to be corrected back to January 2018. This correctly recalculated the rate back to 1/1/18, I confirmed this on the Employee’s Confirmation Statement as well. The employee I have used as an test person in the LIVE system is Rick Ambrose.

      The problem comes when I go to run the February Invoice. I should see in the January Adjustment section of the invoice two entries:
      1. A credit for the incorrect rate of -$456.16
      2. A rebilling for January for the amount of $445.17

      This is not occurring. Instead of rebilling the total premium of $445.17, it is only rebilling $401.71 which is a Self-Insured Component of the total premium.

      I have not recalculated and extended the rate for the entire population in the MediGap plan, there are 87 more Retirees that will need to have their rates corrected as well.

      Could you please have Development look into this and correct ASAP?

      Thank you,
      Kira Hamilton
      Debbie Kulling

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            gaurav.sodani Gaurav Sodani (Inactive) added a comment -

            Hi Prasanna Karlekar & Amruta Lohiya,

            Please coordinate together to resolve this issue

            Regards
            Gaurav

            Umesh KadamSatyaHrishikesh Deshpande

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            gaurav.sodani Gaurav Sodani (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Prasanna Karlekar & Amruta Lohiya , Please coordinate together to resolve this issue Regards Gaurav Umesh Kadam Satya Hrishikesh Deshpande
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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment -

            Hi Kira Hamilton,

            We have verified this issue. It is caused because of fix done in WT-10187, which impacted the retro add adjustments in case of multiple self insured component scenario.

            Following is the scenario:
            Rate name : AmWins MediGap
            Components mapped : AmWins, BCC Fee, EAP Fee, HUB Fee, EHCW Fee
            Retro add cost for component AmWins was appearing and other components cost was getting excluded. To fetch proper data in case of multiple self insured components we have done script changes on all BCC companies.

            Update regarding impacted invoices:
            WT-10187 was deployed in Production environment on 22-Dec-2017.
            We are scanning this scenario for invoices generated after 22-Dec-2017 on all BCC companies.
            Will provide detailed update about scanned data by tomorrow 12-Jan-2018.

            Apologies. By mistake, regenerated Feb 2018 invoice on COB instead of HSPL copy, while verifying the script change for mentioned employee.

            Do let us know, if issue still persist.

            Thank you!

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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Kira Hamilton , We have verified this issue. It is caused because of fix done in WT-10187 , which impacted the retro add adjustments in case of multiple self insured component scenario. Following is the scenario: Rate name : AmWins MediGap Components mapped : AmWins, BCC Fee, EAP Fee, HUB Fee, EHCW Fee Retro add cost for component AmWins was appearing and other components cost was getting excluded. To fetch proper data in case of multiple self insured components we have done script changes on all BCC companies. Update regarding impacted invoices: WT-10187 was deployed in Production environment on 22-Dec-2017. We are scanning this scenario for invoices generated after 22-Dec-2017 on all BCC companies. Will provide detailed update about scanned data by tomorrow 12-Jan-2018. Apologies. By mistake, regenerated Feb 2018 invoice on COB instead of HSPL copy, while verifying the script change for mentioned employee. Do let us know, if issue still persist. Thank you!
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            Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) added a comment -

            Hi,

            Per an email received 1/11/2018 from Jennifer H at BCC, I have re-ran the February invoice with all of the retirees who needed to have a rate change and the issue has been resolved.

            This ticket can be closed,

            Thank you,
            Kira Hamilton
            Debbie Kulling

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            Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) added a comment - Hi, Per an email received 1/11/2018 from Jennifer H at BCC, I have re-ran the February invoice with all of the retirees who needed to have a rate change and the issue has been resolved. This ticket can be closed, Thank you, Kira Hamilton Debbie Kulling
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            Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) added a comment -

            Please see previous note posted.

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            Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) added a comment - Please see previous note posted.
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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment -

            Hi Kira Hamilton,

            Have reopened this ticket as scanning for impacted invoices was not complete yesterday.

            Thank you!

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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Kira Hamilton , Have reopened this ticket as scanning for impacted invoices was not complete yesterday. Thank you!
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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment -

            Hi Kira Hamilton,

            We have scanned all BCC company invoices that were generated after 12/21/2017.
            We found adjustment issue related to self insured components for 4 companies.

            Following are the impacted invoices:

            Company Invoice Name Generated On Invoice Month Is Finalized
            City of SeaTac Monthly Invoice Client-KG 12/21/17 8:14 AM Jan-18 Yes
            City of Walnut Creek City of Walnut Creek - Invoice 1/5/18 11:10 AM Jan-18 Yes
            COSB Monthly Invoice - SBCERS KMM 1/4/18 8:06 AM Jan-18 Yes
            COSB Monthly Invoice - COSB Active 1/5/18 12:33 PM Jan-18 Yes

            For details, please refer WT-13063_ImpactedInvoices.xlsx.

            Please let us know if it is possible do delete and regenerate these invoices.
            If not, then, we will manipulate data from back end, so that affected elections will have proper adjustments in next invoices.

            Kindly inform.

            Thank you!

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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Kira Hamilton , We have scanned all BCC company invoices that were generated after 12/21/2017. We found adjustment issue related to self insured components for 4 companies. Following are the impacted invoices : Company Invoice Name Generated On Invoice Month Is Finalized City of SeaTac Monthly Invoice Client-KG 12/21/17 8:14 AM Jan-18 Yes City of Walnut Creek City of Walnut Creek - Invoice 1/5/18 11:10 AM Jan-18 Yes COSB Monthly Invoice - SBCERS KMM 1/4/18 8:06 AM Jan-18 Yes COSB Monthly Invoice - COSB Active 1/5/18 12:33 PM Jan-18 Yes For details, please refer WT-13063_ImpactedInvoices.xlsx . Please let us know if it is possible do delete and regenerate these invoices. If not, then, we will manipulate data from back end, so that affected elections will have proper adjustments in next invoices. Kindly inform. Thank you!
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            Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) added a comment - - edited

            Hi Prasanna Karlekar,

            Per BCC: The only group's invoice that can be deleted by development is City of Walnut Creek's January invoice. Other than this group, please inform Development that they absolutely CANNOT DELETE our generated Invoices. This is NOT an option. They must make the appropriate adjustments and have those adjustments appear on the client’s next Invoice. I would also like an explanation as to how or why this occurred? Also, what has been put into place to ensure that this does not happen again in the future.

            Thank you,
            Kira Hamilton
            Debbie Kulling

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            Kira.Hamilton Kira Hamilton (Inactive) added a comment - - edited Hi Prasanna Karlekar , Per BCC: The only group's invoice that can be deleted by development is City of Walnut Creek's January invoice. Other than this group, please inform Development that they absolutely CANNOT DELETE our generated Invoices. This is NOT an option. They must make the appropriate adjustments and have those adjustments appear on the client’s next Invoice. I would also like an explanation as to how or why this occurred? Also, what has been put into place to ensure that this does not happen again in the future. Thank you, Kira Hamilton Debbie Kulling
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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment - - edited

            Hi Kira Hamilton,

            Following are the updates for above reply from BCC:
            #1. "The only group's invoice that can be deleted by development is City of Walnut Creek's January invoice."
            -There are only 4 elections that were impacted for this company. We will trigger the adjustments from backend so that they appear in Feb 2018 invoice. No need to regenerate Jan 2018 invoice for City of Walnut Creek as well.

            #2. "Other than this group, please inform Development that they absolutely CANNOT DELETE our generated Invoices. This is NOT an option."
            -Please be informed that, we never delete any invoice (finalized / non finalized) on main company. We always do the verification on HSPL copy. If any time it does happens, then it is only by mistake and not intentionally. Hence, we will not be deleting / regenerating any of the client's invoices.

            #3. "They must make the appropriate adjustments and have those adjustments appear on the client’s next Invoice."
            -Yes. This will be done. You can expect the data that will trigger adjustments on Feb 2018 invoice, to be inserted in system by following date:

            Company Name Can Expect By
            City of SeaTac 16-Jan-2017
            City of Walnut Creek 16-Jan-2017
            COSB 17-Jan-2017

            We need more time for COSB, as there are around 61 adjustments that needs to triggered. We need time to insert this data and verify it once at our end.

            #4. I would also like an explanation as to how or why this occurred?
            -This issue was there only for Health plans when a rate has more than 1 self insured component mapped. We have already mentioned in our first comment itself that, this issue is caused because of fix that we did in WT-10187. We had verified WT-10187 for Health - Billed Rate, Health - Single Self Insured Component and Non Health plan - Single Rate, Non Health plan - Multiple rates mapped. We did not verify the scenario for multiple self insured components. And this issue got reported for multiple self Insured components where only single component cost was appearing on invoice and rest of the components cost was getting excluded.

            #5. Also, what has been put into place to ensure that this does not happen again in the future.
            -While doing any core logic changes, in our verification check list with Health Plan - Billed Rates, Health Plan - Single Self Insured Component, Non Health Plan - Single Rate, Non Health Plan - Multiple Rates, we will also include multiple self insured component scenario.

            Please note that we are not converting this JIRA to bug as we had explored this issue at our end while fixing WT-13053. Hence, the fix will be deployed on all companies with WT-13053 only.

            Also, we do apologies for the incorrect Jan 2018 invoices that got generated at client end.

            Do let us know, if any more details required.

            Thank you!

            cc: Jyoti Agrawal

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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment - - edited Hi Kira Hamilton , Following are the updates for above reply from BCC: #1. "The only group's invoice that can be deleted by development is City of Walnut Creek's January invoice." -There are only 4 elections that were impacted for this company. We will trigger the adjustments from backend so that they appear in Feb 2018 invoice. No need to regenerate Jan 2018 invoice for City of Walnut Creek as well. #2. "Other than this group, please inform Development that they absolutely CANNOT DELETE our generated Invoices. This is NOT an option." - Please be informed that, we never delete any invoice (finalized / non finalized) on main company. We always do the verification on HSPL copy. If any time it does happens, then it is only by mistake and not intentionally. Hence, we will not be deleting / regenerating any of the client's invoices. #3. "They must make the appropriate adjustments and have those adjustments appear on the client’s next Invoice." - Yes. This will be done. You can expect the data that will trigger adjustments on Feb 2018 invoice, to be inserted in system by following date: Company Name Can Expect By City of SeaTac 16-Jan-2017 City of Walnut Creek 16-Jan-2017 COSB 17-Jan-2017 We need more time for COSB, as there are around 61 adjustments that needs to triggered. We need time to insert this data and verify it once at our end. #4. I would also like an explanation as to how or why this occurred? -This issue was there only for Health plans when a rate has more than 1 self insured component mapped. We have already mentioned in our first comment itself that, this issue is caused because of fix that we did in WT-10187 . We had verified WT-10187 for Health - Billed Rate, Health - Single Self Insured Component and Non Health plan - Single Rate, Non Health plan - Multiple rates mapped. We did not verify the scenario for multiple self insured components. And this issue got reported for multiple self Insured components where only single component cost was appearing on invoice and rest of the components cost was getting excluded. #5. Also, what has been put into place to ensure that this does not happen again in the future. - While doing any core logic changes, in our verification check list with Health Plan - Billed Rates, Health Plan - Single Self Insured Component, Non Health Plan - Single Rate, Non Health Plan - Multiple Rates, we will also include multiple self insured component scenario. Please note that we are not converting this JIRA to bug as we had explored this issue at our end while fixing WT-13053 . Hence, the fix will be deployed on all companies with WT-13053 only. Also, we do apologies for the incorrect Jan 2018 invoices that got generated at client end. Do let us know, if any more details required. Thank you! cc: Jyoti Agrawal
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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment -

            Hi Kira Hamilton,

            Today, we could complete the correction and verification for City of SeaTac only.
            Kindly regenerate Feb 2018 invoice, to get adjustments for Dec 2017. Please note that, we have already mentioned company wise impacted election details in WT-13063_ImpactedInvoices.xlsx.

            Kindly confirm and do let us know in case of issues for City of SeaTac.

            Thank you!

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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Kira Hamilton , Today, we could complete the correction and verification for City of SeaTac only. Kindly regenerate Feb 2018 invoice, to get adjustments for Dec 2017. Please note that, we have already mentioned company wise impacted election details in WT-13063_ImpactedInvoices.xlsx . Kindly confirm and do let us know in case of issues for City of SeaTac. Thank you!
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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment -

            Hi Venkatesh Pujari,

            We have done data manipulation to trigger the adjustments on Feb 2018 invoice. Data manipulation is done on COSB for HSPL.
            Kindly verify all the adjustments mentioned in WT-13063_ImpactedInvoices.xlsx for COSB.
            Post QA verification we will do the data manipulation on main company.

            Thank you!

            cc: Sachin Hingole, Rakesh Roy, Gaurav Sodani

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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Venkatesh Pujari , We have done data manipulation to trigger the adjustments on Feb 2018 invoice. Data manipulation is done on COSB for HSPL. Kindly verify all the adjustments mentioned in WT-13063_ImpactedInvoices.xlsx for COSB. Post QA verification we will do the data manipulation on main company. Thank you! cc: Sachin Hingole , Rakesh Roy , Gaurav Sodani
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            venkatesh.pujari Venkatesh Pujari (Inactive) added a comment -

            Hi Prasanna Karlekar,

            I have verified impacted records randomly on HSPL copy. The adjustments seem to fine for both the Invoices. Please could you manipulate the data on Main company.

            Thanks,
            Venkatesh

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            venkatesh.pujari Venkatesh Pujari (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Prasanna Karlekar , I have verified impacted records randomly on HSPL copy. The adjustments seem to fine for both the Invoices. Please could you manipulate the data on Main company. Thanks, Venkatesh
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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment -

            Venkatesh Pujari -

            We have done data manipulation to trigger the adjustments on Feb 2018 invoice on main copy.
            Kindly verify.

            Thank you!

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            prasanna Prasanna Karlekar (Inactive) added a comment - Venkatesh Pujari - We have done data manipulation to trigger the adjustments on Feb 2018 invoice on main copy. Kindly verify. Thank you!
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            venkatesh.pujari Venkatesh Pujari (Inactive) added a comment -

            Hi Kira Hamilton,

            Following is the update from our side:

            City of Walnut Creek: No manipulations done as client has regenerated Jan 2018 invoice. Thank you!
            COSB : We have verified the ajustment related to incorrect health plan adjustments that appeared on Jan 2018 invoice. We have verified the records mentioned in "WT-13063_ImpactedInvoices.xlsx". Please regenarted Feb 2018 invoice to get proper adjustments.

            Kindly verify the data at your end and do let us now in case of issue.

            Prasanna Karlekar,Sachin Hingole

            Thanks,
            Venkatesh

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            venkatesh.pujari Venkatesh Pujari (Inactive) added a comment - Hi Kira Hamilton , Following is the update from our side: City of Walnut Creek : No manipulations done as client has regenerated Jan 2018 invoice. Thank you! COSB : We have verified the ajustment related to incorrect health plan adjustments that appeared on Jan 2018 invoice. We have verified the records mentioned in " WT-13063 _ImpactedInvoices.xlsx". Please regenarted Feb 2018 invoice to get proper adjustments. Kindly verify the data at your end and do let us now in case of issue. Prasanna Karlekar , Sachin Hingole Thanks, Venkatesh

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