Hi Vishal Bajad,

Please start with this

Vishal BajadIt would be appreciated if you update about the LB deployment date for better planning.

We are analyzing,will share ETA once we done with it.

Hi all - further comment on this ... will this allow for the import to check the maximum on the EE and ER as well as the combination of the two to make sure they don't go over the rules set on the plan?

Hi Jennifer,

We had a discussion with Amit on this. Below are the details of the
discussion,

1. We got to know that ideally HAS plan should have forced contingent
upon HDHP or else employee may lose coverage provided by employer.

2. The ER coverage is prorated and decided as the age bands and heath
tiers of contingent medical plan. So instead of accepting it from file , we
should auto calculate it based on tier and band.

3. When we do election import, it has its own enrollment mode and it
is not there on age band settings page. If the enrollment mode is selected
‘All’ on age bands, we can use it. But what should be case if instead of
‘All’, there is other type of enrollment modes (OE,QE, new hire, rehire)?

We need to discuss all these points. Can we have call today at 8:30 AM PST?

Thanks & Regards,

Jaideep Vinchurkar

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Hi Jennifer,

Amit is busy in another call. Can we have this call in evening around 8 or 9 PM PST?
Please share your contact no. to call.

Thanks & Regards,

Jaideep Vinchurkar

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Hi Jennifer,

We had a discussion with Amit on this. Below are the details of the discussion,

1. We got to know that ideally HAS plan should have forced contingent upon HDHP or else employee may lose coverage provided by employer.

2. The ER coverage is prorated and decided as the age bands and heath tiers of contingent medical plan. So instead of accepting it from file , we should auto calculate it based on tier and band.

3. When we do election import, it has its own enrollment mode and it is not there on age band settings page. If the enrollment mode is selected ‘All’ on age bands, we can use it. But what should be case if instead of ‘All’, there is other type of enrollment modes (OE,QE, new hire, rehire)?

We need to discuss all these points. Can we have call today at 8:30 AM PST?

Thanks & Regards,

Jaideep Vinchurkar

From: Jennifer Leugers (JIRA) jira@workterra.atlassian.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:03 PM
To: jaideep@harbingergroup.com
Subject: [JIRA] (WT-618) ER coverage Enhancements with Age Banded Rules on plan

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Re: ER coverage Enhancements with Age Banded Rules on plan

Hi all - further comment on this ... will this allow for the import to check the maximum on the EE and ER as well as the combination of the two to make sure they don't go over the rules set on the plan?

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Hi all - do we still need to meet on this? Can we meet on Monday?

Yes wee need to meet. Please share time and contact details. We are keeping task on hold till we meet.
Adding Amit Thorve in this loop.

I'm open Wednesday morning before 9:30 AM PST

keeping this on hold as discussion with Jennifer Leugers is pending

Please see below

Queries:

Election import offers same functionality as enroll now screen. If enroll now screen is not allowing to enter ER coverage why should have import allow this?

Anyways, ER coverage is always a fixed value, calculated as per the settings on cost and coverage; we do not see any point to accept it separately in file.

Allowing ER coverage would need a replication of code from enroll now to calculate and to validate ER coverage. This is not a cost effective solution. We will prefer to calculate the ER coverage just like enroll now screen.

UHC Response: Agree there is no need to import since system will know which ER contribution to apply based on effective date. However, the system should recognize an import of EE coverage that exceeds maximum when an ER contribution also applies. Please let me know if this doesn’t make sense.

If you see the cost and coverage settings, age wise coverage have different values based on enrollment mode and health tier of contingent (parent) plan. Election import is not having any enrollment mode. If the setting is having ‘All’ as enrollment mode, we can consider it as enrollment mode. However, if the settings are for specific mode like OE, QE or new-hire which mode should we consider for import?

UHC Response: Can’t the system identify max ee contribution amounts based on effective date of coverage and er cost?

Vishal Bajad Please provide the latest update.

Hi Jennifer Leugers,
Point #1 is clear. We will remove the option of ER coverage from election import and make sure the validation on max coverage.
Point #2 is, however confusing. How can we get the mode of enrollment by effective date. Please share your thoughts.

I guess I’m struggling with why there would be a need for the site to recognize the enrollment mode type as current functionality (non-ER funded) is set up the same and we can import without issue. Why is an ER funded set up different? My comment was based on an assumption that maybe it had to do with not recognizing the effective date of coverage on an employee to determine the maximum that should apply when this set up is built.

I guess understanding why enrollment mode is an issue with this build set up would allow us to provide feedback on item 2.

Any feedback on this?

HI all - please advise.

Hi Jennifer Leugers,

Please refer attached 'Working of ER coverage for HAS plans' (the same document I sent you earlier on email). The document is having snap of cost and coverage page of HSA plan. For these plans (ER coverage)we have enrollment mode wise coverage. That's why we need enrollment mode for import. When I discussed this with Amit a few days back, he is also wondering why we need enrollment mode to decide coverage. We thought this might be UHC specific request. if we do not require enrollment mode to decide coverage, we either have remove it from cost and coverage screen or we have to decide on a single mode for import to use.

The enrollment mode does not matter; UHC always chooses all.

So should we consider 'All' as default for import ?. If we do not found 'All', we will kick out the records.

Yes you can consider all

Ok then, As of now you can directly import ER coverage. We will share another analysis document and ETA for this in next week. May be we can take this up in sprint 4. If this urgent please let us know.

Please start analysis of this.

Please Find Attached ETA.

Thanks - when will this begin?

Stage ETA = May 30

Attached Test Case sheet.

Hi,
Development Completed , Pending for Code Review.

Development and Code Review Completed, Ready For LB.

Deployed on LB .
Rashmita Dudhe Please Test.

Verified on LB Environment.
Verified all attached scenarios.
Working Fine as expected.

Deployed on Stage .
Rashmita Dudhe Please Test.

Verified on Stage environment HSA plan is contingent on Medical plan
Not able to test for contingency.
getting Run time error block for testing refer link jira

Found some issue on stage.
It will take some time to fix. Once it fixed will update stage and Production deployment date.

Hi all - any updates on this one?

A code fix for issue will be deployed on LB tomorrow. Meanwhile as tester says they are blocked in testing, we can have workaround. we will let you know updated production deployment date tomorrow.

Jaideep Vinchurkar Vishal Bajad : Let me know the Production Plan for this task ? as per Jaideep's comments he was suppose to give production date 5 days ago
where we are now ?

Testing in progress on stage

Rashmita DudheVishal Bajad
Status and assignee and comment is not matching.

Verified on Stage Environment.
Verified all attached scenarios.
Working Fine as expected.

Verified on Production Environment.
Verified all attached scenarios.
Working Fine as expected.

Jennifer Leugers
Hi Jennifer,
This is deployed and verified on Production.
Kindly, Check And update Jira accordingly.

Thanks & Regards,
Rashmita

Thanks - do we have a couple of brief screenshots on how to set this up that I can share with UHC?

Hi Jennifer Leugers,

This is just like existing Election Import. We not allowing ER coverage to be imported. ER coverage will get calculate based health tier of contingent plan.

HI all - sorry but I'm not understanding this. Could you give me an example of how this would work using the calculations contributions? This doesn't seem to be what UHC was asking for ...

Jaideep Vinchurkar, could you answer Jennifer Leugers query?

CC; Vijay Siddha

Hi all - what value needs to be mapped for this the system to automatically calculate? Anything?

please provide a snap snapshot of election template for HSA ER - EE coverage

Hi Jennifer Leugers ,

Please find attached snap for Fields mapping for Import template and setting for age wise coverage.